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kh coverOn May 29th, an article I penned was published about the Sebastian Florida female whose family, father-Steve Hunt Jr and mother-Kelley Hunt Smith, created a Facebook page titled “Free Kate”. This story has captured headline news spots. The premise behind the page and why Kate needs freeing is truly a contorted path. When I wrote my article, there were conflicting accounts of the ages of the girls involved. I personally, still have more questions than answers.

The longer this tale is spun, the more convoluted the story. As outlined at supporthonesty.net, Kate turned 18 prior to the start of school on August 14, 2012. Hunt’s family claims she was 17 when the relationship started. If the dates are correct, i.e., her birthday, the start of school, and when the relationship started, there is no possible way for Kate to have been 17 at the beginning of school, much less when the girls started “dating”.

That brings up another issue. Dating. The Hunt’s present a vague tale in which their daughter and the Smith’s daughter were “dating”, or “in a relationship”, however you wish to call it. From the accounts which have been made public, the young women were not dating. Not dating as I define it. Probably not what anyone over the age of 21 would define as dating.kh2

Merriam-Webster defines it as “an appointment to meet at a specified time; especially : a social engagement between two persons that often has a romantic character”. According to the arrest affidavit and the statements of both females, they engaged in “sexual activities” on 3 separate occasions. This is not dating. If Smith’s parents were unaware, or simply opposed to this relationship, there would have been no “dates”. They would not have allowed it.

There are also a number of little things that I find bothersome. Minor details. Kaitlyn was 18 before school started. Why? Was she held back? Did she fail? I’m trying to wrap my mind around why an 18 is starting her senior year of high school. Most students are 17 when they start the senior year and turn 18 during the school year. Then there is the 14-year-old.

Why is a 14-year-old playing varsity basketball? I understand about being a superior athlete, but when you have a state statute that will prosecute anyone who has a sexual relationship with a person over 12 but under 16, how can you put these people in the same environment and think nothing will happen?

Why is she listed as a sophomore on the 2012-2013 roster for the basketball team, but her supposed age indicates she should be in her freshman year of high school. Was she moved up a grade? If so, did her parents not think of all the things that come with being among older children?

kh1We would all like to think our children wouldn’t be sexually active in high school. We have forgotten, apparently, how we were as teenagers. We were walking, raging hormones trapped somewhere between “still a kid” and “it is time to grow up and be an adult”.

The Hunts want Kate free. The Smith’s just seem to want the nightmare to end. As for me, I am still confused. My biggest hope is that the truth will come out in court because so far, I am not certain we have been given a whole lot of truth. I see two girls who were physically attracted to one another and they took advantage of it.

Did Kate manipulate the Smith girl? I don’t know. I don’t think anyone but Kate will ever know the truth of that. Did the girls have more than two trips to a bathroom stall and a night that should not have happened between them? These are not things listed on a police affidavit, but I would say if the girls did not actually “date” then probably not.

The Hunts have drummed up literally a world of support, but they want no mention of the “girlfriend” or her family. Why?Kaitlyn Hunt, Steve Hunt Are they simply being respectful to a minor and her family or are they afraid people will speak to the young woman or her family and come away with more questions?

If the Hunt’s have misrepresented themselves and this situation, and garnered donations, it definitely puts a dark cloud over the entire situation. If they have used the LGBTQ community and the sympathies therein, they are not helping the community. They are hurting it and the generous people of not only their own community, but those struggling to be accepted as equals.

Updates will be added as they become available. Until then, we wait, we watch, and we try to navigate a minefield of what is the actual truth and what has been vague representations seemingly generated to cloud the issue.

The original story can be found here:  http://tgvnews.com/2013/05/18-year-old-arrested-charged-and-expelled-for-whom-she-loved/

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21 comments

  1. I became aware of this story when I received a request to sign the petition from Change.org in support of Miss. Hunt and based on the information available at the time I willingly did so but as time has unfolded so has this story and unfortunately as you have pointed out not in a good way for Miss Hunt.

    Being a parent I can relate to the anguish of both parents and the plight of both kids in this case, this must be an absolute nightmare for all parties involved and what I am having an issue with here is whomever is advising Miss Hunts Parents. I believe Miss Hunt is unfortunately being used to promote an agenda and based on the alleged timeline and alleged facts in the following link:

    http://supporthonesty.net/

    If accurate Miss Hunt is in some serious trouble and THAT is what is not being taken into account here. Like it or not consent laws have a place in a sane society and are needed to protect minors but in this case I and I’m sure in many others, kids in High School, if in consensual relationships should not fall under these types of laws but what I or anyone else believes or thinks is irrelevant.

    The fact is the law is what it is in Florida and Miss Hunt is going to unfortunately bear the brunt of it. It is unfortunate that this story has gone viral in the manner it did with so little facts and has garnered as much support as it should and may ultimately hurt the case for equality, if the facts in this case prove to be other than what has been put out there by Miss Hunt’s Parents.

    However the agenda for equality is not the issue here, the issue is that an 18 year old kid is about to have her life flushed down the toilet for nothing more than a High School romance………

    I can’t help but wonder if this does not go Miss Hunt’s way, which I truly hope it does for her sake and for her sake alone, how her parents will be able to live with themselves.

    • As the mother of a very tall fully developed autistic teenager who is in a gifted program, please allow me to answer your query of:” Didn’t the parent think of what would come along with moving her into a higher grade” 1. I believe her parents thought that this would be an excellent decision for her education. Advanced kids still have to apply for college and every good thing you can show on their apps helps..such as advanced placement, athletics, social volunteering etc. They were not sending their daughter into a Bar where Sex could occur in a bathroom stall (if one were drunk enough or sleazy enough not to care) They were sending their daughter to SCHOOL. Sex is NOT supposed to occur in a Bathroom Stall in High School..Yes you may say it does and etc etc but the point IS their daughter was going for the education. That no doubt is what they expected. 2. Hunt had never dated a girl b4 only boys according to her mother. So I find it suspicious that when she tries a new experience she finds a 14 year..academically advanced yet emotionally still a kid cause Hey ..14! to experiment with. It sound predatory in the extreme. 3. Dates? Getting fingered in a bathroom stall doesn’t sound so romantic and datey to me. 3 sexual encounters and then we’re done sounds like being used. 4. What about the 14 yr old? Seriously why is no one asking about her and how she feels about being a “romantic FLING” or a “Experiment”. We do not ask because we know. “Welcome to the world honey. Your romantic dreams of love and sweetness pale before someone else’s desires. Hunt wanted to experiment and she did, unfortunately you are just more or less a sidenote. Please go about the rest of your life having sex with whomever….just realize that it’s nothing..your gift of self is nothing..and hey..maybe one day you’ll find that special someone and fall in love Being mature enough then to realize what LOVE is. Then you can be in a relationship where both people are valued and cared for. Good Luck! ” That’s it isn’t it? The wake up call we don’t tell our 10 year olds about as they sit dreaming of falling in love with Justin Bieber or dressing up as a princess..we don’t tell them the harsh realities of how people will USE others sexually in this world because they are innocent and we work very hard to keep them so until they can gain the emotional maturity to understand the world and life and be able to PROTECT THEMSELVES. This 14 yr old girl had her innocence stolen. As she “fell in love” with a popular 18 yr old who had a license and was a cheerleader..she must have felt so special until she read about herself as “FLING” or “Experiment” She must feel like crap and we all know that is the reality of the world. She now knows as well. THAT is the PREDATORY Aspect to this that everyone is missing. K. Hunt stole from that kid and darn right the parents are furious..who wouldn’t be? It wasn’t a romance by any means it was a Convenience. NOW we are to be concerned about an “18yr olds life being flushed away” ..well. The 18 yr old WAS 18 yrs old and She made the choice..and posted on FB that she knew it was wrong but she was going to do it anyway and then she was warned away by the 14 yr olds parents and kept going and then when she was arrested..She had a MIRACLE of a Plea Bargain offered to her. She turned it down. She wants the charges reduced..Really. A rapist wants the charge reduced..oh nice. I’m sure a murderer would like their charge reduced too and maybe an Arsonist and thief but hey..IT DOESN”T WORK THAT WAY. She turned it down because she didn’t want to registered as a sex offender..BUT she WAS and IS and DID. It is not like she wasn’t warned, kicked off the teams, kicked out of school, coaches talked to her, the kids parents talked to her. Now..NOW I am to be concerned. I am going to tell you something..I can not be concerned about someones life and future MORE than they are. She didn’t care soooo OK! “Kaitlyn Your choice..you’re an adult at 18..even though you had help that you ignored because you were willful and wanted your way EVEN THOUGH someone else got hurt in the bargain…Even though you’re cute and take a nice pix. Ok. You got what you wanted. Enjoy!” Now for the 14 year old who is still attending school, who has been used, who has had her parents attacked in a smear campaign headed by the Hunts, who was “OUTED” by name on the net ..(Hey look a 14 yr old Rape Victim OUTED by name..where is the outrage?) the 14 yr old who now I am sure sees herself very differently..the 14 yr old ..THAT is where my sympathy lies. The 14 yr old KID who was approached and groomed and targeted by the 18 yr old..the 14 yr old who thought kaitlyn was IN LOVE with her.. The 14 yr old who is the victim here. My sympathies are with her. Before anyone tallies up the Prison for 18 yr old vs a 14 yr olds innocence. There is no price you can put upon a child’s view of the world because it will be the window that they interact with others for the rest of their lives. Forevermore the 14 yr old will see herself and others in a certain way CAUSED by this terrible event in her life. She will make choices based upon it..important choices..She will grieve over and look back one day and realize that for all the “romance” and “relationship” and High school “fling” these words bandied about her assault she was indeed a predators victim. I frankly regard her as a Rape Victim because she is..just because her attacker was some cute girl..just because she was “talked into” having sex doesn’t make her any less a victim. A 14yr can NOT CONSENT to having sex..it cannot be consensual because she doesn’t have the emotional maturity. PERIOD. Before you tell me at 14 yr olds are having sex all over and are very mature..let me point out one thing…How is it that people point out the “maturity” of the 14 yr old “consenting” yet point out the “Immaturity” of the 18 yr old and we shouldn’t through the book at her because she “didn’t get it and was in love” If you’re going to argue the point that the 14 was so mature to decide upon sex..you’ve completely set up that the 18 yr old was mature enough to know and do better. Sorry for the long post but it is had been grinding to see the outpouring of support for an 18 yr old having sex with a 14 yr old. An 18 yr old guy with a 14 yr old girl would have been a slam dunk. If we’re going to argue Equality between the sexes, genders, sexualities etc..then we need to accept that it is the exact same thing. If an 18 yr old breaks the law then a 18 yr old pays the price. Don’t like that? Don’t break the law. Don’t agree with the age of consent..work to change the law. I hope that this 14 yr old kid can get past this and that her parents make sure she has therapy to understand that she was NOT at fault and that she is NOT to blame for what happened. Perhaps she can manage to cobble something together left out of her childhood. I hope it can be so.

      • Lin @3:38 – Thank you for putting these thoughts to words. You are not alone in them.

      • Thank you pretty much nailed my thoughts, just one thing…

        You mistakenly said she wanted the charges reduced so she wouldn’t have to register as a sex offender. Under the plea that was offered her she wouldn’t have had to register as a sex offender. She was being offered the more generic charge of “Child Abuse”, which doesn’t require registration as a sex offender.

        So plea was no jail time 2 years house arrest one year probation. She would be able to work and go to school during that time. And she wouldn’t have to register as a sex offender. (WOW you are RIGHT, MIRACLE of a deal!!!) The sticking point was that it was still a felony instead of a misdemeanor. So in her arrogance she turned it down because as a felon she wouldn’t be able to pursue her chosen career path. My opinion, someone is giving her very very bad advice.

        If I were her, I would be on the prosecutors door step PLEADING to reinstate the deal.

        I am so sick of people saying the Smiths are destroying her life, or the prosecutors, or whomever. She made the decisions that lead to the consequences she is facing. She knew or should have known. Do I think she should be thrown in jail for 15 years, no. And truthfully, even if found guilty by a jury, the likelihood of that happening is slim to none.

        But… I think the plea deal offered her was on the lenient side, because I don’t think she will get anything better by facing a jury and is likely to get much worse.

        I predict 5 years in prison with possibility of parole after 1-2 years and register as a sex offender for the rest of her life. Which I think would be fair on the harsh side, but she turned down the more lenient punishment so…

        So yeah, she should have taken the plea deal.

        • Zenock…Minimum sentence if found guilty is 7 1/2 years and lifetime registry on sex offender list. Plea deal meant a lifetime felony record. We don’t know the truth in this case just the facts that have been released so far. I reserve judgement until the whole story comes out but I think high schoolers shouldn’t be convicted felons for having intimate relationships with their girlfriends/boyfriends. Most states in the US agree with that opinion. As for the whole education aspect that Lin stated…With better education in public schools comes unintended consequences such as throwing your 14 year old in the shark infested waters of older peers that are juniors and seniors. Been there, done that. Luckily my parents taught me to put up with nothing, be confident in myself, avoid peer pressure if I didn’t want to do something I shouldn’t.

          • Karen:

            You are mistaken:

            Lewd and Lascivious Molestation punishable as a felony of the second degree is assigned a Level 7 offense severity ranking under Florida’s Criminal Punishment Code.

            As a result, a first time offender would be facing:

            A maximum sentence of fifteen (15) years in prison, and
            A minimum sentence of four and one-quarter (4¼;) years in prison.

            Additionally:

            Under certain circumstances, in second and third degree felony cases, the court can deviate from the minimum prison sentence required under Florida’s sentencing guidelines if it can be shown:

            The child was an initiator, willing participant, aggressor, or provoker of the incident;

            The defendant requires specialized treatment for a mental disorder (unrelated to substance abuse or addiction) and is amenable to treatment; or

            The defendant is to be sentenced as a youthful offender before the defendant’s 21st birthday.

            The part I marked could apply depending on what the “facts” are.

            Finally, even if convicted by the jury she could petition for an exemption to having to register as a sex offender based on Florida’s Romeo and Juliet

            To be eligible the following must apply:

            The conviction was for:
            Sexual Battery (F.S. 794.011), or
            A Lewd or Lascivious Offense (F.S. 800.04);
            The crime involved a consensual sexual encounter with a 14, 15, 16, or 17 year old minor;
            The minor was no more than 4 years younger than the defendant at the time of the sexual encounter;
            Registration as a sexual offender (or predator) is solely because of the above conviction;
            No other convictions for a Lewd or Lascivious Offense, Sexual Battery, or Lewd or Lascivious Exhibition using a Computer exist.

            I’m sticking with my prediction 5 years with possibility of parole after 1 to 2 years and her petition under the Romeo and Juliet law will fail. I could be wrong. It’s just my prediction. I certainly don’t think she’ll get worse than that though. I also don’t believe she’ll get as good as the plea deal that was offered her.

            You stated that, “I reserve judgement until the whole story comes out but I think high schoolers shouldn’t be convicted felons for having intimate relationships with their girlfriends/boyfriends. Most states in the US agree with that opinion.”

            You are mistaken again. Most states do NOT agree with that opinion. Florida’s age of consent laws are pretty standard if not more lenient than other states.

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_North_America#United_States

            As far as the nonsense about throwing kids into “Shark infested waters”, Lin was dead on with the following, “They were not sending their daughter into a Bar where Sex could occur in a bathroom stall (if one were drunk enough or sleazy enough not to care) They were sending their daughter to SCHOOL. Sex is NOT supposed to occur in a Bathroom Stall in High School.”

            I read an article the other day about a 12 year old child genius going to college. Are his parents throwing him into the shark infested waters by allowing him this opportunity?

            But that doesn’t really matter because parents are pretty much required by law to send their children to school. Parents and educators have a duty to educate children on what the rules of the school and the law is. That being said, once you are considered an adult ignorance is no excuse.

            I was 13 in High School 13 year old children in high school is common. So by your reasoning it would be OK for an 18 year old to have a relationship with a 13 year old.

            But wait, I also know there are several high school students that are 19 having been held back a grade. So would a 19 year old be OK with a 13 year old? I mean as long as they were both in high school right?

            My point is a line has to be drawn somewhere, and the state of Florida drew it. As an ADULT, Kate Hunt had a responsibility to follow it. If the law isn’t upheld it is meaningless, you have to have a definitive line to follow.

          • I almost forgot, I wanted to make one other point about your, “throwing your 14 year old in the shark infested waters of older peers that are juniors and seniors” comment.

            This is exactly why THESE laws are needed. To protect the 14 year old that would other wise be offered no protection in these “shark infested waters of older peers that are juniors and seniors”.

            You want to change the school system so 14 year old children don’t go to school with juniors and seniors… that’s something I can get behind. I would support that. But I can’t support removing the little protection they have in the system as it is currently set up.

  2. Thanks for this article. I don’t want to see Hunt go to jail…. but I have serious questions about the character of someone who won’t take ‘no’ for an answer, even when the threat of punishment is on the line. I question parents who did not at least look into their daughter’s romantic attraction to someone so young. I knew lots of young men who were handsome, successful, charming…. but sociopaths. The common denominator was a kind of parent that had a distorted view of their child and a pathological willingness to blame everything on their son’s victims. I also don’t like tht Hunt’s parents seem to think the 14 year old is sexually precocious…. I gather some racial overtones in this assertion. I think the trial will be a good thing.

  3. As always in all such matters, the facts are unclear – and an explicitly adversarial (as opposed to, say European enquiry-based) legal system doesn’t help – we value what is nothing more than a verbal form of trial-by-combat accompanied by the absurd belief that this will somehow miraculously result in ‘truth’ and ‘justice’ – when we ought know better.

    Let’s put aside for a moment, then, this particular case and consider the broader questions as to why these laws exist, and what form they ought to take. For one thing, we might note that the law’s ability to address moral questions is limited at best – it’s a crude tool, however much we pretend that it isn’t. Yet, all would reasonably agree that the law must address some questions that are essentially moral.

    All would agree that predatory sexual behavior directed against the young and vulnerable is a legitimate and an important area of concern for the law. Yet, we ought to note, too, that the particular form of the laws we have – which very from state to state, just as they vary from country to country – are historically rooted in literally Medieval concerns as to parentage, marriage, and legitimacy of offspring conceived out of wedlock.

    How, then, to address the vital and legitimate need to shape the law to address the vital and legitimate concerns of the possible abuse of the young while leaving behind ‘traditions’ that make the law at times a cruel and inappropriate tool for the task?

    Note that it’s common under present law, such as in California, that if two 17-year olds have any sexual contact whatsoever, even that far short of actual sex, both parties are guilty of very serious criminal offense, both may be criminally prosecuted, and both may be ‘sexual offenders’ required to register and report for the remainder of their lives.

    Does this sort of thing appear sensible, or indeed even rational?

    I, for one, would argue that it doesn’t.

    It’s important, I think, to try and think clearly when considering what the shape and the form of law ought to be – which isn’t easy when we’re considering these subjects.

    We need to remember, too, that in the US, unlike European systems (which are far from perfect, and have their own issues, heaven only knows) there is no real oversight or review of prosecutors or of judges. We have no system, really, to provide independent oversight and review of the decisions of District Attorneys and the like, we realy solely on their ‘judgement’ as to what to prosecute, and how – and they are either politicians directly elected or the appointees of politicians – it’s important to bear this in mind, I think, and not for even a moment to think of them as somehow removed, distant, fair-minded, objective – they are quite simply politicians or the appointees of politicians, with all that that implies (both good and bad). The same is true for judges. In Europe (I’m sounding as if I’m idealizing the Europeans, but, trust me, I have no illusions they’re either better or worse, but they have a good idea or two) judges are trained as judges, on a separate career track from lawyers, and they are charged first with finding the facts of the case (not merely acting as referee), and – most importantly – they are subject to oversight, and review, and cases can be appealed on the merits, not merely on technicalities (as is the case, unfortunately, in the US).

    So, then… in my opinion, I would agree that we don’t know much as to matters of fact in this case.

    I think, though, that it might be useful if we asked ourselves some deeper questions as to what form the law ought to take in this area.

    If two 17-year-olds ‘make out’ are they both sexual predators, as the law currently defines them in many states?

    Really?

    Perhaps we let our understandably strong feelings in the area of sexual abuse be taken advantage of by the politicians who write the laws and who are eager to pander to our emotions as they scramble for our votes.

    Perhaps we need to consider our responsibilities as citizens to step back a bit, think sensibly, and insist our elected officials craft laws that attempt both to rationally address very real concerns for the horror of sexual abuse and sexual predation and the equally real concern that such laws and the legal system can be horrifically damaging and destructive if proper balance and rational thought are not central to our considerations.

    Just a thought…

  4. I happened to talk to the teacher who runs our high school sex education program. I’ve known her for years so we’re pretty open with each other. She told me that kids once they reach puberty become very curious especially after become aroused for the first time. Many end up “playing doctor” or having mutual stimulation with a friend or relative. This either comes about by being caught stimulating themselves, through innocent talk, or being close physically. She said the percentage of this occurring may be as high as 60 to 70% of high school aged kids. I know she’s probably correct from personal experience She said its hard to estimate because as people become older the social stigma to this act becomes greater. She said in our school system and state there is no offense if two people are less than four years apart when they are in school. It frightens her to know in other parts of the country its a felony for teens to act in a way that’s totally normal. I noticed in Florida its even illegal for two underaged kids to have sexual contact.

  5. If the repeated threat of arrest, jail, conviction, prison and lifetime registration as a sex offender is not enough deterrent for you to not put your fingers inside a 14 year old girl, then indeed, you ARE a sex offender.

  6. A question that has not been addressed regarding this case* is the role of this predatory lesbian’s parents. By the little information that has been reported, they encouraged their daughter, Kaitlyn Hunt, to target and groom underage girls for homosexual exploitation and statutory rape – something we can presume many other liberal parents also do.

    Whether Kaitlyn’s parents can be legally defined as “aiding and abetting” in these harmful actions is a question for the justice system. But in practice, that is exactly what they seem to have done by the information reported. Apparently they had knowledge that their daughter was targeting girls for homosexual activity, they think this is normal, they encouraged it, and they counseled her to do it if she wanted to. Moreover, they did not report their daughter to authorities after her alleged statutory rape. If this wasn’t enough, they adamantly want their daughter not to be prosecuted for the alleged statutory rape. In other words, they want their daughter to commit statutory rape of girls, as often as she likes, targeting as many kids as she wants, with total impunity. It’s clear that people defending homosexual statutory rape clearly espouse morally corrupt views on sexuality and work to destroy protections ensured by the law against child sexual exploitation and perversion.

    The sexual grooming and statutory rape allegedly committed by Kaitlyn is defended by liberals based on their utterly false claim that homosexuality is normal, therefore pursuing homosexual behavior is not only acceptable but laudable – and that includes child exploitation, seduction, homosexual grooming, perversion, and statutory rape. Liberals wrongly believe that homosexual urges are biologically determined and therefore must be followed through in action – that is why they normalize homosexuality, and use the same rationale for porn and promiscuity. It’s all an excuse for rationalizing their dysfunctional attitudes and behaviors regarding sexuality, but any excuse will do for people who want just that.

    It’s clear that those defending Kaitlyn would encourage, aid, and abet teenagers in committing many kinds of sexually exploitative and abusive actions, including every single statutory rape in society. This is, after all, the liberal recipe for sexuality regarding teenagers. Despite their ridiculous protestations that they are not in the same boat as the NAMBLA folks, liberals who normalize homosexuality show us that, in practice, they want to largely achieve what NAMBLA failed to do. They want to have sex with minors and claim to be oppressed and misunderstood if they aren’t allowed to – the only difference is the cut-off age, since NAMBLA also included smaller kids. Furthermore, NAMBLA consistently pushed to lower consent age for sex – exactly one of the issues in this case.

    Kaitlyn’s parents shamelessly proclaimed that Kaitlyn was just “experimenting with her sexuality and the other girl’s.” So, what if this Kaitlyn had wanted to produce child porn with this 14-year-old? What if she wanted to have a three-some with an adult and the 14-year-old? Should she be allowed simply because she has a homosexual problem and her parents claim that Kaitlyn has the right to “experiment with other girls’ sexualities” in any way that her perverted homosexual mind conceives of? Kaitlyn’s “right” to “experiment” with other kids stops where other kids have the right not to be experimented with – and that applies to every single kid. All the more power to the girl’s parents who went to the police. And lucky for them that they still can. If liberals continue to push for their “normalize homosexuality” crusade, pretty soon parents with ethical views on sexuality will probably be hauled into jail for not accepting homosexuality as normal and for objecting that their kids be groomed for homosexual sex, which we all know is hailed as the hate and bigotry thought crime du jour.

  7. Re: Alessandra

    It’s good to know that not only homophobia but free-floating self-righteous puritanical hatred and a vicious and compelling need to control the morality of others as well as to physically punish those who don’t share your beliefs is alive and well and living in your soul.

    It’s enough to make one wonder if Swift wasn’t excessively charitable when he gave us the portrayal of the Yahoos presented in Gulliver’s Travels.

    Have a very nice day, Alessandra :)

  8. I’m sorry…. but sex with underage people is NOT part of the ‘gay agenda.’ The truth is that there are people who see any progress on equality as an opportunity to forward their own little agendas. But these people should not be conflated with the lgbt community and their allies. There have always been people with destructive appetites, and these people are from any orientation, but don’t use that fact to hate people.

  9. As far as “Why is a 14-year-old playing varsity basketball? I understand about being a superior athlete, but when you have a state statute that will prosecute anyone who has a sexual relationship with a person over 12 but under 16, how can you put these people in the same environment and think nothing will happen?”

    The “victim” plays varsity basketball because she’s very, very good at it and if anyone’s “being groomed” (UGH, that HATEFUL comment above by Alessandra), it’s the 14-year-old, for a career in the WNBA since she was very little. This information is public if you do some searching on the school/the girl’s varsity basketball team; you’ll find videos of the girl online playing and she is. Fantastic. You’ll also find a personal statement by the the Smith girl and you can tell that she is exceptionally eloquent for a 14-year-old. Another article online (pre-this case hitting the news) states that she is very mature for her age.

    It is all very intriguing when you find out this information…because you know. It’s the WNBA. If Smith’s parents are so homophobic, they must be oblivious to the nature of their daughter’s chosen dream, seeing that the WNBA is considered a “lesbian sport”.

  10. Here are some other questions to ponder:

    According to the TV interview with the Smiths, they warned Kaitlyn Hunt to stay away from their daughter– “not once, but TWICE,” as Jana Eschbach says in a rather breathless voice-over.

    However, according to the case report that was included with the plea offer, the Smiths did not even learn of the relationship until February 7, 2013, the day before they talked to a sheriff’s investigator. So exactly when did they supposedly tell Hunt to stay away from their daughter?

    Seems that neither side is being honest in this case.

    • sfreader you have somehow made a leap to deciding that the Smiths were dishonest in their interview.

      That makes no sense. Some people are really reaching to undermine the Smith family. I’ve seen it in many comments and it is a deplorable attempt to shift blame to the victims family. I have little tolerance for it.

      The Smiths, in interview, said they (and others) had warned Kaitlyn the relationship was wrong.

      The Indian River document shows that the coach and others spoke with the Smiths about the relationship on a Feb evening at a basketball game, and following they found out from their daughter it had become sexual. The Smiths went to the police the next day.

      The Indian River document does not state that was the first the Smiths knew of the relationship . . . that is something you have concluded on your own.

      The daughter of the Smiths had already been found, after running away, at the home of Kaitlyn Smith in January. No doubt they knew there was a relationship . . . if not just too intense of a friendship for an 18 and 14 year old, and no doubt a warning would have come after that incident, if not before.

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